tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576018960973115197.post5106191541937225328..comments2024-01-15T02:20:27.230-08:00Comments on The MLM Syndrome: MLM and GuiltJohn Doehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05186871105223753934noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576018960973115197.post-81514528423215819332016-12-20T01:14:42.220-08:002016-12-20T01:14:42.220-08:00Don't forget, 'MLM' mobs run blame-the...Don't forget, 'MLM' mobs run blame-the-victim frauds which, in the most simple terms, can be described as nothing more than sophisticated versions of "heads I win: tails you lose."<br /><br />The classic closed-logic 'MLM' controlling scenario says that only persons who believe in their group's 'plan' totally, who 'duplicate the plan exactly' and who 'never quit,' will 'achieve success.' <br /><br />Therefore, by this closed-logic, when the persistent 'MLM' adherent loses his/her shirt, the controlling scenario automatically says that this result was entirely the fault of the individual for not believing totally, for not duplicating the plan exactly and for quitting. David Brearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11122471861776758998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576018960973115197.post-86278756362381361972016-12-19T13:41:07.115-08:002016-12-19T13:41:07.115-08:00You can only lay a guilt-trip on someone if you sh...You can only lay a guilt-trip on someone if you share some sort of agreement or connection with him. If your presuppositions are totally different, he won't feel guilty.<br /><br />Hardened criminals are notorious for feeling no guilt or shame about their evil deeds. They have no internal commitment to moral behavior, so why should they feel guilty when you upbraid them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576018960973115197.post-56505147129423569552016-12-19T07:02:31.174-08:002016-12-19T07:02:31.174-08:00Anonymous,
Great point about guilt needing cultur...Anonymous,<br /><br />Great point about guilt needing cultural relevance. I never thought about the establishment of a cultural bias to help generate guilt.John Doehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05186871105223753934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576018960973115197.post-31275904675954264452016-12-18T13:26:29.140-08:002016-12-18T13:26:29.140-08:00Your description of how guilt can be generated in ...Your description of how guilt can be generated in another person (sometimes called "laying a guilt-trip on someone") is very accurate. Parents can lay guilt-trips on children, and the children can do the same in reverse. The thing can happen in marriages, friendships, work situations, social gatherings, or anywhere groups of people gather.<br /><br />But there is another factor to be considered. Guilt-trips only work on persons who are already psychologically and emotionally compromised. You can't put a guilt-trip on someone who doesn't share your attitudes, beliefs, opinions, outlook, worldview, and commitments.<br /><br />You can't say to an Arabian wife-beater "Aren't you ashamed of beating your poor wife?" if he replies "No, I'm not! She deserved her beating, and beating a bad wife is acceptable in my culture!" Your attempted guilt-trip will fall flat in a situation like that.<br /><br />It follows that, in Amway or any other exploitative MLM, the laying of guilt-trips on persons by up-line or other supervisors is based on a previously established pattern of dependence. Lowly IBOs have already bought into the Amway fraud, and have been psychologically convinced that the "Plan" is real and important. This loyalty makes guilt-trips possible.<br /><br />In my opinion, this is why Amway and all the rest of those stinking MLMs insist on a rigid, lockstep, utterly conformist lifestyle and way of thinking in their membership. It makes guilt-trips possible, and with the guilt comes obedience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com