tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576018960973115197.post4729981270461227512..comments2024-01-15T02:20:27.230-08:00Comments on The MLM Syndrome: MLM and 12 Classic Propaganda Techniques Pt. 2John Doehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05186871105223753934noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576018960973115197.post-41072629824337480962017-09-16T11:55:43.873-07:002017-09-16T11:55:43.873-07:00Mr. Steadson, the unmasked 'Amway' Lord He...Mr. Steadson, the unmasked 'Amway' Lord Hee Haw, now styles himself as "a social entrepreneur" and "a consumer advocate who has been reporting on pyramid schemes for almost 20 years."<br /><br />https://www.quora.com/profile/David-Steadson<br /><br />I presume that after Mr. Steadson came up with his new reality-inverting disguise, he sang three choruses of 'Walzing Matilda' and then fell down in a heap.<br /><br />Steadson once got very upset when I described his Internet photo as him 'dressed up as Zorro.' He immediately launched into a squawking tirade about his internet persona being the 'Dread Pirate Roberts' from 'The Princess Bride.'<br /><br />https://www.quora.com/profile/David-Steadson<br /><br />"...Roberts is not one man, but a series of individuals who pass the name and reputation to a chosen successor once they are wealthy enough to retire."<br /><br />In other words, Steadson made the mistake of admitting that his many thousands of hours of Internet propaganda activities have not been the unpaid work of one person, but the work of several people (and who have been well paid).<br /><br /> <br /><br />David Brearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11122471861776758998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576018960973115197.post-45567573907724658232017-09-15T18:25:35.433-07:002017-09-15T18:25:35.433-07:00I wonder why Steadson is living in Sweden. Maybe ...I wonder why Steadson is living in Sweden. Maybe he had to run away from the law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576018960973115197.post-60176639638931513122017-09-15T15:56:35.953-07:002017-09-15T15:56:35.953-07:00Steadson might still be active:
http://amwey-busi...Steadson might still be active:<br /><br />http://amwey-business.cz/amway-propaganda-task-force-attacking-wikipedia/<br /><br />""Some 200 edits have been done to english article about Amway just during last 20 days – the same amount of edits took over a year to do before the attack. That is the result of ongoing Amway zealots activity on english Wikipedia. It had been all started on March 8 by user with nick „Historik75“, who was soon reinforced by user „Icerat“. Who are these guys and what is their goal?<br /><br />User Icerat, well known as ibofightback, is Australian David Steadson currently residing in Sweden. It is well known Amway zealot active over a decade and also active (or used to be active) Amway member with proven result of 3% (what a success!) in his Amway business. He is also IT guy and owner of over 20 websites dedicated to Amway, where he publishes spinned pro-Amway propaganda.""<br />Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576018960973115197.post-39964577679036254692017-09-14T15:29:03.992-07:002017-09-14T15:29:03.992-07:00Steadson was a master of obfuscation. He used to ...Steadson was a master of obfuscation. He used to run google alerts so anytime an Amway discussion was on the internet, he was there. He wouldn't often stay to argue for long, but he would respond to a comment with "you obviously don't understand how Amway works". And then he'd disappear but that comment would stay there forever.<br /><br />At his peak, he was running 23+ blogs and forums about Amway and making literally thousands of comments all over the internet.<br /><br />He's still got two forums running, although they are basically dead. Amway talk and "The truth about Amway", which is loaded with untruths.<br /><br />One other common tactic is say there's one side of the road and the other side of the road. Truth lies in the middle. He will try to get you to defend your side of the road while ignoring his claim.<br /><br />In all the years I battled with him, he could never admit he was wrong, even when caught in a lie. He would say "I misspoke" or claim it was a typo when clearly he was wrong or lied. <br /><br />It's too bad Scott Larsens's Amquix Info website is no longer up. He had some goodies about Steadson. Steadson is truly a narcissist. Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576018960973115197.post-49743855025711254002017-09-14T09:18:35.877-07:002017-09-14T09:18:35.877-07:00Joe,
Steadson claiming people don't complain ...Joe,<br /><br />Steadson claiming people don't complain about Amway is ludicrous. Anyone that has heard of Amway, and is currently participating, has some sort of a complaint about Amway and their tactics. I have never met a person, that was not a current member of Amway, say anything nice about the "business". I'm not sure what a "formal complaint" is, but after the landmark case in 1979, it is hard to act as though there aren't major "formal complaints". <br /><br />The partner store myth seems to be rampant in current Amway groups. They love to act as though blue chip companies care about Amway, and they have these fantastic relationships. That couldn't be further from the truth, and Amway is using those stores' reputations to sell more products. I'm honestly not sure exactly how IBO's purchase products from "Partner Stores", but I wouldn't be surprised if it was Amway purchasing the products at wholesale and then selling them to IBO's. I also wouldn't be surprised if Amway wasn't certified to legally do this.John Doehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05186871105223753934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576018960973115197.post-86107483270938971402017-09-14T09:11:15.814-07:002017-09-14T09:11:15.814-07:00Anonymous,
I wish I was around when Steadson was ...Anonymous,<br /><br />I wish I was around when Steadson was spreading his BS. The amount of craziness he displayed is important when discussing narcissism and propaganda. He would be a great, current, example of how narcissists work and how they are polluting people's minds. John Doehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05186871105223753934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576018960973115197.post-53543808637661352442017-09-13T13:58:05.659-07:002017-09-13T13:58:05.659-07:00Steadson himself was a textbook example of a propa...Steadson himself was a textbook example of a propagandist. His entire aim was not the truth, but merely damage-control against anybody who dared to publish criticism of Amway.<br /><br />He never addressed criticisms honestly or directly. He just sneered at the people who made them, and spouted the canned drivel that Amway provides as "answers" to common objections. The guy was no more objective than Dr. Goebbels, the Nazi minister of Propaganda.<br /><br />It's interesting that Steadson was not involved as an IBO in Amway at all. He never personally took part in Amway or any other MLM racket. He was simply a paid-up media whore whose job was to defend the indefensible. He seems to have disappeared from the public scene, but he may be working under a pseudonym elsewhere, helping to defend MLMs against any on-line critiques.<br /><br />I notice, however, that he doesn't have the balls to come here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5576018960973115197.post-67045073802283615132017-09-13T12:17:29.150-07:002017-09-13T12:17:29.150-07:00Fake it till you make it, is one of the things I w...Fake it till you make it, is one of the things I was taught as a new IBO. The idea was to act successful because if you stayed in Amway, you would eventually "make it", so why not act the part in advance?<br /><br />Minimizing problems is another common defense. David Steadson AKA "IBOFightback" was the master of this. His defenses would range from "Amway has few formal complaints". That would be true because many people are sponsored by family and friends, thus there wouldn't be many formal complaints.<br /><br />Another is lies or distraction such as partner stores or that Amway is endorsed by the BBB. Partner stores means nothing except that Amway IOs get to shlep products for these partner stores. The BBB doesn't endorse any business. But it sounds impressive to someone who has no idea.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.com